Fred R. Coulter—June 23, 2012

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How many have received the latest mailing? I want you to carefully read and study the letter, what it means to be under law. That has not been understood in the way that it was meant to be understood. When you read there in Romans 6:15: "What then? Shall we sin because we are not under law, but under grace? MAY IT NEVER BE!" [God Forbid (KJV)]

Every time they hit grace they say, 'But that doesn't mean we're not to keep the laws.' The true definition of under law has very little do with law-keeping. It has to do with the standard that everyone is under in the world before God.

Paul says, Romans. 7:1: "Are you ignorant, brethren (for I am speaking to those who know law), that the law rules over a man for as long a time as he may live?" That's everybody. Are we all subject to law? Yes, we are! Being under grace is another thing entirely. That's because you have a direct relationship with God the Father and Jesus Christ and your commandment keeping has to be in the spirit with a higher standard than God judges the world.

I want you to read and study that very carefully and go through the sermons that we have covered, Grace Upon Grace—what it is and what it means to be under grace. I think it's going to help

  • expand our relationship with God
  • expand our love for God
  • expand our love for each other

and help us understand with a greater clarity the purpose that God has for us.

What a fantastic privilege that it is and blessing—I want you to think of this; go back and reread Rev. 4 & 5—that God the Father and Jesus Christ are personally, directly, through the Spirit of God, in your life. You have direct access to God the Father and Jesus Christ instantly, all the time! People in the world don't have that.

For the first time you'll understand why there are some very good people—some of them maybe even better than you, as far as being people are concerned—not under grace. Why the Protestants who think they are under grace are under law. So, it's going to be an eye-opening series, indeed. It will further show the dividing line that God Himself has set. I think you'll find that very inspiring and very helpful.

As I was on my way to Oklahoma and in preparing for the sermon, two things have happened that we need to discuss.

  • We need to understand what God is doing
  • We need to understand what Satan is doing
  • We need to understand how we need to be vigilant
  • not lukewarm
  • not socially acceptable
  • not playing church
  • how we need to be vigilant

Let me tell you something that's very apparent. Most of us who have little hair or gray hair, or little and gray both, are going to be in a place of safety spelled g-r-a-v-e. You've heard me say several times in sermons that God is not going to fulfill the prophecies to the minimum, but to the maximum.

What we are fighting today is the greatest deception to hit the earth covering the greatest number of people at any time in the history of the world. We are confronted with many extremes. We're together, yet we're apart. You want to know how that works, try Facebook.

We are at one with God, but we're scattered. We understand the Truth of God and God is granting us more understanding—not that we're smarter or more intelligent than anybody else—but at the same time it's being taken away from the world. Protestants are in a steeper decline than ever before. I'll be bringing some sermons on that in the near future. I'm almost done with the book called, Christianity After Religion. You've heard me speak on Christianity Without God, now Christianity After Religion. It's a setup for the one-world system.

How are they going to have world religion? Unity through diversity. 'I'm good, you're good. I accept you, you accept me.' That has nothing to do with God. Satan is not yet done trying to corrupt the Bible. I just might mention, when going through and starting to do translating—back in 1991-1992—I had no idea of doing the New Testament, let alone the whole Bible. But when someone sent the Inclusive New Testament which was the feminist homosexual Bible where they were changing everything in reference to man and God in the masculine to something other. The Son of man became the human one.

The thing that really, really was the thing that tipped my decision to finish the New Testament was study translations I did way back in the 1990s. That's what I did them for. I said, 'Okay, brethren, let's do a study translation and then we'll go word by word through the books of the Bible. By the time I got this book, the Inclusive New Testament, I was about half done with the New Testament. When I read the phrase that the word referring to God as Father is only 'a metaphor' and that 'in order to help people understand about God in a more diverse way, we have changed it to Father/Mother.'

That's when I made the decision to finish the New Testament and do it. I said as I was reading it, if we let that stand God is going to judge us. Here we have the Word of God, we understand the Word of God, but we rely on these faulty translations and now they're corrupting it so much that pretty soon it will be unrecognizable.

I just got this email from Helmut Berger in South Africa. As I read this I want you to think about Satan the devil is deceiving the whole world in everything. The one thing he wants to desecrate more than anything else is the Word of God. The next thing that he wants to send into confusion and apostasy are the Churches of God. We'll talk about that later. So, he says:

Maybe you already are aware of this... [no I wasn't] ...I met an eminent professor of Semantic languages yesterday. He is a client of mine.

Helmut Berger is a lawyer.

He told me about attending a seminar on Bible translation that was held in the United States three weeks ago… [which he attended.] …The seminar took place under the auspices of the UBS (United Bible Society). The newest direction of thought as far as Bible translation is concerned is this: a Muslin-friendly Bible.

If that doesn't make the hair on the back of your neck stand up and if that doesn't make you appreciate and love the Truth of God, and if that doesn't stir you to draw close to God and realize that we are living in perilous times, desperate times indeed. In reality we are, as you will see on the latest DVD that we're sending out, we are not too far behind Greece.

So, all of the good pleasant convenient things we have, that's going to change. So we better be prepared mentally, spiritually, and physically. We need to know the Word of God as never before. We need to understand the forces of Satan the devil working in the world and working in the Churches of God as never before.

I asked what he meant by this. He said that at the seminar it was proposed that there are many things that are offensive to the Muslims....

Poor babies! Those vicious, beheading little babies can't stand to be offended. Let me tell you everything about the Muslim religion is offensive to God.

... This then, goes the argument, stands in the way of bringing the Gospel to the Muslims.

Really? It's not a matter that you bring to them, it's a matter that God must call them. How are you going to give a witness to them if you say, 'You be nice good little boys and girls. We won't offend you. Please don't cut off our heads.'

Then I asked him to give me an example of such an offensive thing. He told me that the term the Son of God is offensive to the Muslims. He said Muslims argue that God is not a created being and that if Christ is portrayed as the Son of God, that implies that God had sex with Mary and is not acceptable to them.

Really? Jesus was a 'Rock of offense' to the Jews. So let it be to the Muslims, so let it be to anybody else.

Then I asked him as far as translation is concerned, how do they propose to solve this problem? Then he proceeded to tell me that they are looking at the alternative relationships that could exist between "a father" and someone who could be called a "son," but is not really the father's biological son.

What does that do? What does that do to the heart and core of the Gospel? How can they preach the Gospel when they gut everything concerning Christ? We better be ready. We better look far down the road at things that are going to happen. There's going to be a lot of technology coming. There are going to be a lot of things that are going to be developing.

When I gave the sermons on Transhumanism there were some people who really were offended by it. Then you explain what Jesus meant, 'As it was in the days of Noah so shall it be in the days of the coming of the Son of man.' Then you answer why Noah was 'perfect in his generations,' and God sent all the animals after their kind to Noah. Then God destroyed everything else. What sin was worthy of destroying all mankind, all animal life, all bird life, feed them to fish and let them rot and destroy everything that there is? Split the world, turned it upside down, caused the Flood.

Since God is loving and kind and merciful—which He is—and God is willing to forgive upon repentance, even carnal people—which He is—why destroy everything unless they were doing the same thing they are doing now? Mixing genes! The more they mix them, the easier it becomes.

I remember when I resigned in October 1979, on the Day of Atonement. If you still have that sermon, you go back and listen to it very carefully again. I said something that was very offensive. I said something that people would not believe and would think that I was exaggerating beyond any logical sense.

When I gave that sermon all I had were listing of Scriptures. I knew all the things going on from the top on down, all the middle levels, all the politics, all the favoritism, all the over-spending, all the corruption, all the lying, all the cheating. I knew all of that! So, when certain men were ordained that never should have been ordained, God inspired me to say, 'Never again will I be lied to by that church leader.'

In giving the sermon, I'm just bringing this out as a point, in giving the sermon I said in 1979 that unless there was someone in the pulpit in Pasadena calling out to the people in Pasadena to amend their ways that the forces of evil would be set in motion which would destroy the Church. When I said that, that was unthinkable—right? I asked God to inspire me. I take no credit that I had foresight. I asked God to inspire me with the sermon all the way when I was going through it that it would be His will, not my will.

Today looking back can we ask the question: Did it happen? Did He destroy that organization and three colleges and give it into the hands of those who hate Christ as punishment for the sins of the ministry and the people? Yes, He did! We're to all learn lessons from that. But some have not learned the lessons. Some want to go back and recreate the same thing over again. Some want to recreate the financial flow of funds like they had. Can you imagine that the income at the peak of that Church was $200-million in one year!

Now then, let's look at some things here. Jesus said there would be false prophets. He warned over and over again. He said, 'Beware of false prophets. They come to you in sheep's clothing but outwardly they are sheep but inwardly they are ravening wolves.' We find warnings of it all the time. Let's see what Paul said. God is not done judging His Churches. As a matter of fact, we're always under judgment every single day, every one of us. That's why we are under grace so that God's judgment is eternal life for us. But God does not want us following the idols of men or following men as idols.

There was a time when Ezekiel was in the camp and many of the elders, the princes of Judah, came to him and wanted to know what God wanted. God told Ezekiel, 'You tell these men of Israel I will not be inquired of them because they have idols in their minds.' We find that with the Churches of God. There is a lot of mental idolatry toward people, money, power and control.

Acts 20:26: "Wherefore, I testify to you on this day that I am pure from the blood of all, For I have not held back from preaching to you all the counsel of God. Take heed..." (vs 26-28). He's talking to the elders and all of those who are teaching. God holds every single one of us individually accountable.

  • Do we maintain a correct repentant, humble attitude before God?
  • Do we study and pray daily?
  • Do we use the Word of God?
  • Do we preach the Word of God?
  • Do we teach the brethren that?

Too many people in the Church of God have been taught what the ministers want to teach them so they can control them, rather than teach them what they need to have a fellowship relationship directly with God the Father and Jesus Christ. Then when we come together on the Sabbath how great that is.

All the people that need to hear this message are not here, but I'm bringing it so that it will be available, so that they can hear. God commands us that unless we 'cry aloud and spare not to show the people and the ministers their sins,' He's going to hold us responsible. Isn't that what He says? Yes!

There's going to come a day real soon that the sword of judgment against the Churches of God is coming. You have to be in a position to help all of those brethren that are scattered once again. That's why I want you to have this message. I want you to have it and we'll send it out to you so you can say, 'Here, you need to listen to this and you need to understand what has happened because Satan the devil wants you to get so turned off at God that you will reject everything and walk away.' That's Satan's goal: that they're all comfortable and nice and warm and friendly and fuzzy.

Paul gave this as a warning to the elders. Verse 28: "Take heed therefore to yourselves and to all the flock, among which the Holy Spirit has made you overseers, to feed the Church of God... [feed the flock] ...which He purchased with His own blood."

You belong to God the Father and Jesus Christ. You're in the Church of God spiritually because you have the Spirit of God. When we assemble together physically, if we're all maintaining the relationship with God that we need, then you have wonderful Sabbath services. You have wonderful fellowship. There is no politicking here. There are no little secret doctrines over there. Have you all gone through that in the past? You walk into church and you come with a good attitude and you go home and you say, 'Why did I go to church?' Come home with a terrible attitude. Minister is up there saying, 'Sell everything you have and send it to me and you'll be surprised what I can do with it.' Yes, you will! 'Be thankful for your loin cloth and your sandals and your teepee.' There's one man who virtually says that. Take heed to yourself. Christ died for every one of you individually and you belong to God!

"For I know this: that after my departure grievous wolves will come in among you, not sparing the flock" (v 29). Have we seen that happen? Have you been a victim of it? Let me give you just this one thing. Remember when we were told, 'This apostle of God, the only one on earth,' which was a sin to say so and do so and proclaim it, and he changed the Gospel from the gospel of the return of Christ to the gospel of give and get.

Remember that? 'What a wonderful thing that was,' and everyone said, 'Oh, this is great, this is marvelous.' Spent millions and millions traveling around the world, seeing all the world rulers. That's why there are millions of new Christians in every one of those countries. I have first-person testimony, the last two years before he died you know what his confession was? He said, 'All of those trips overseas God never opened a single door, we kicked them in with money.' Now you know why that organization no longer exists, and yet, people want to duplicate that system.

Verse 30: "And from among your own selves... [Even the ones that Paul had personally ordained. How about that!] will rise up speaking perverse things to draw away disciples after themselves. Watch, therefore, remembering that for three years I ceased not to admonish each one night and day with tears. And now I commit you, brethren, to God and to the Word of His grace, which is able to build you up and to give you an inheritance among all those who are sanctified. I have coveted no one's silver or gold or clothing" (vs 30-33). Think on that! What was the result of that?

There are some ministers who when asked the question, 'Ezek. 34, you think that applies to the ministers today?' Oh, no, that doesn't apply to them. Really? Let's see what God says.

Ezekiel 34:1: "And the Word of the LORD came to me, saying, 'Son of man, prophesy against the shepherds of Israel... [Who is spiritual Israel? The Church. This prophecy can apply religiously to the Church, politically or anyone who sets himself up as a teacher.] ...Prophesy and say to them, "Thus says the Lord GOD to the shepherds, 'Woe to the shepherds of Israel who feed themselves! Should not the shepherds feed the flocks?'"'" (vs 1-2).

What did we just read back in Acts 20? What did Jesus tell Peter three times as a test of his love? Feed My sheep, feed My lambs, shepherd My sheep! What did he say in 1-Peter 5? He said, 'Feed the flock of God that is among you.'

Verse 3: "You eat the fat and clothe yourselves with the wool; you kill the fat ones, but you do not feed the flock. You have not made the weak strong, nor have you healed the sick, nor have you bound up the broken. You have not brought again those that were driven away, nor have you sought that which was lost; but you have ruled them with force and with cruelty" (vs 3-4).

Do we have Churches of God today that say, 'If you belong to this church, you can't talk even to your own father and mother and your relatives who are not in the church.' How's that for love? Know for sure the hand of judgment is coming. I'm going to read you an example of one that happened and to show that too many brethren blindly follow a man because they're not teaching them to follow Christ. Paul wrote we're to imitate God.

Verse 5: "And they were scattered for lack of a shepherd. And they became food to all the beasts of the field when they were scattered. My sheep wandered through all the mountains and upon every high hill. Yea, My flock was scattered upon all the face of the earth, and none searched nor sought for them" (vs 5-6).

I can't tell you how many people I've talked to, brethren, that have gone through this church and that church and the other church. This is happening in Protestantism so much so that they're calling some of their members 'church-hoppers.' They're only looking for the Truth. I talked to a woman who said she was in the Seventh Day Adventist Church for thirty years and saw it evolved into nothing more than Sabbath-keeping Protestantism. So, she went to this Church of God and couldn't find the Truth. She went to another Church of God and couldn't find the Truth. Went to another Church of God and couldn't find the Truth.

I say shame on all the Churches of God that people can't find the Truth because you're so selfish and so far from God that people can't walk into that congregation and say, 'God is here!' She said she's been searching on the Internet comparing church to church to church. Finally she came across and then People are searching for the Truth, brethren, because God is going to be leading them to the Truth.

My hope and prayer in giving this sermon is not to condemn people but to wake them up to realize that God needs you to repent so that God can add to the flock. He is not going to add to the flock to have them come in and be bruised and slaughtered and killed and robbed and deprived. Not going to do it! He's not going to do it! You need to understand that.

Verse 15: "'I will feed My flock, and I will cause them to lie down,' says the Lord GOD. 'I will seek that which was lost, and bring again those that were driven away, and will bind up the broken, and will strengthen the sick. But I will destroy the fat and the strong; I will feed them with judgment'" (vs 15-16).

Now notice, He talks to the flock, because the ministers can't do it without followers—correct? Yes, indeed! Verse 17: "'And you, My flock,' thus says the Lord GOD, 'Behold, I judge between lamb and lamb, between rams and he-goats. Is it a small thing for you to have eaten up the good pasture, but must you trample the rest of your pastures with your feet?.…'" (vs 17-18). Who are these? These are all the people in the church who support the wrong and false doctrines of the man that they are following. They don't allow the rest of the brethren to learn or grow.

Verse 19: "'And My flock, they eat what your feet have trampled... [watered down doctrine, lies] ...and they drink what your feet have fouled.' Therefore, thus says the Lord GOD to them, 'Behold I Myself will even judge between the fat lamb and the lean lamb. Because you have thrust with side and with shoulder, and with your horns have pushed all the weak until you have scattered them abroad. Therefore I will save My flock, and they shall no more be a prey. And I will judge between lamb and lamb'" (vs 19-22). God is going to do that. It's talking of His Church!

Remember the sermons I gave about three years ago to beware of false prophet {note: an number of sermons have been given on this subject and can be found on website} about a man called Ron Weinland who said that he was one of the two witnesses. He was so smart and intelligent that he forgot to remember that he should have been clothed in sackcloth and ashes and he should have been in Jerusalem and his ministry would only last 1,260 days.

But being so anxious to promote himself and having brethren coming along like lemmings following him, funding him, believing him, rather than proving all things by the Truth, proving all things by the Scripture, and he finally got caught. Not only that his doctrines were wrong, which he said on May 26 this year Jesus was going to return. Hello, Harold Camping #2—didn't happen!

The brethren didn't know it and they didn't prove, they supported, they bolstered, they upheld. Some of them today will still believe his lying justifications for what he did. So, he squirreled away $486,000 in a Swiss bank account.

If you're warning the world's coming to an end and Christ is going to return, why would you do that? You wouldn't think that would be hypocritical—would you? Then there was a treaty made between the United States concerning the Federal Reserve and the IRS (Internal Revenue Service—your friendly agents knocking at the door) that the banks would disclose all bank accounts for tax purposes to the IRS. Guess whose name came up? He was arrested, tried, and convicted on all accounts. By the way, he also ran out of 1,260 days.

Let me read you A Voice from the Jury. How many here are online? Go Google: A Voice From the Jury, (False Prophet Ronald Weinland) (

A Voice From the Jury, June 15, 2012 {found under older comments under the above named website}

From 'bags' (commenter): I was on the jury. This clown is a predator.

Wonderful impression, the world should know you because you're the light of the world and the salt of the earth.

The judge will give him the maximum of five years in my guess. I think Laura, Jeremy, and Audra should be indicted as well along with some others seeing what this family has done makes me sick.

How's that for a witness to the world?

The way I see it, what he was actually charged with is a small drop in the bucket as to how much money he has looted. The Weinland Clan riffled through $4.5 million in just over a few years..

The money completely paid for any and all lifestyles for Laura, Ron, Jeremy and his wife, Audra and her husband, Darymple's, and others

Out of the 90% of $4.5 million, the Weinlands alone, spent at least 80% of that money. We are talking Lasik eye surgery, Insight cable bills, utility bills, car insurance, global & domestic shopping sprees for clothing, art, & jewelry, homes, on and on.

And he is one of the two witnesses?

The so called "church money" equals Ron and family's money.

What a brazen piece of garbage. These people are sociopath. I feel for those of you who were ever entangled with this freak!

Yet some people to this day still believe it.

There is nothing at all Godly about this man.

That is putting it lightly because the Church of God, the Churches of God, the ministers of God and the people of God did not do the work of judging that man, God had to have the federal government do it!

By the way, in 2007 when they bought three new BMW's within a few months totaling $100k plus. Ron & Laura also flew to BMW's manufacturing facility to pick his 5 series up from the factory and then had it shipped to the U.S.

It was really disheartening when an elderly lady on social security who was struggling once she moved here from Wisconsin to follow this lunatic borrowed $3,000.00 from the "church money" to get on her feet in Northern Kentucky. She did pay back the $3k and guess where that check was deposited. It was deposited into Laura's account. The question is: How many millions of dollars, euros, etc; have the Weinlands really stolen from victims?

From the Jury Foreperson #215:

When I left the courthouse that afternoon, I felt very tired and physically drained by the decision that we had to make, and by the gravity of the consequences for Mr. Weinland, even though we all felt that he deserved to be found guilty and that he should receive the maximum penalties that could possibly be given.

Reading the comments from all of you on this blog that night, I was uplifted by the unanimous relief and gratitude from the commenters at the verdict that we had reached. We knew that the way that Mr Weinland was fleecing his members by convincing them that he was a Prophet who had the ultimate authority on Earth over the church and humanity was deplorable, and the fact the members were handing over so much of their money just to have it spent on Mr. Weinland's luxuries was repellent.

However, although we were given these facts as evidence, none of those crimes were what he was actually being charged with. We had to use that as evidence to determine for each year [how much income he hid].

To make it even worse for his defense he wanted to give a recorded presentation. He took the stand in his defense and the prosecution ripped him apart. That is today's judgment. There's much more I could read, but I'm not going to.

Brethren, there's a time when all of us need to stand for the Truth. There is a time, which is now, that all the ministers and elders, deacons and members need to examine their hearts and their minds and repent. There are troubles coming down in other Churches of God and when it comes it's going to be swift and furious. There are changes of doctrine coming in other Churches of God and they don't even know that they are frogs being heated up in the pot, again!

That's why, brethren, we all need to stick with the Bible. We all need to stick with the Truth. The long and short of it is this: if I'm doing wrong and you see I'm doing wrong and you come and show me I'm doing wrong, I'll say thank you and go repent. How can we presume to represent God and serve the people of God if we are living in sin, hypocrisy and lies?

Jim knows a man in Texas who sold everything he had and sent it to the Church. Now he's destitute. You think the Church should give it back? No, because they're building big auditoriums and they're building big things for themselves.

What did Jesus tell the rich man? 'You go sell all that you have and come follow Me.' Now that was twisted, 'You give it to me, the minister, and you suffer.' So, what the minister ought to do is send it all back, every bit of it, and cancel every contract and get in some sackcloth and ashes and repent big time to God. Perhaps God may forgive him.

So here's what needs to be done. As I began with the ministers, I'll end with them. 1-Peter 5:1: "The elders who are among you I exhort, even as a fellow elder, and an eye-witness of the sufferings of Christ, and a partaker of the glory that is about to be revealed; Feed the flock of God that is among you, exercising oversight not by compulsion, but willingly; not in fondness of dishonest gain, but with an eager attitude; not as exercising lordship over your possessions; but by being examples to the flock of God. And when the Chief Shepherd is manifested, you shall receive an unfading, eternal crown of glory" (vs 1-4).

Here's what we are admonished, v 5: "In the same manner, you younger men be subject to the older men; and all of you be subject to one another, being clothed with humility because God sets Himself against the proud, but He gives grace to the humble. Be humbled therefore under the mighty hand of God so that He may exalt you in due time" (vs 5-6).

  • We need to be alert
  • We need to be spiritually ready
  • We need to be convicted in heart and mind
  • We need to have the right relationship with God the Father and Jesus Christ
  • We need to have love among ourselves
  • We need to help reach out to the people of God who are about ready to get slammed to the ground again

You go ahead and you Google: A Voice From the Jury, and you can read about what all of the jury members had to say. They sat there and listened to it. Brethren, pray for him. Maybe while he's sitting in prison he may repent. Who knows, we don't know. Pray for all the brethren who have followed him.

Pray for all the poor brethren that have been deceived into sending everything to a man to feed his insatiable arrogant greed and exalting himself that he is God's 21st Century apostle and he alone is going to teach the two witnesses. Pray for him that he'll repent. Pray for the one whose idol is HWA.

When you read the Scripture that Satan 'is deceiving the whole world,' remember the ones he wants to get are those in the Churches of God, and those ministers who raise themselves up in arrogance and power so that they will lead people astray.

Scriptural References:

  • Romans 6:15
  • Romans 7:1
  • Acts 20:26-33
  • Ezekiel 34:1-6, 15-22
  • 1-Peter 5:1-6

Scriptures referenced, not quoted: Revelation 4; 5

Also referenced:

Sermons: Resignation Sermon, 1979
Sermon Series:

  • Grace Upon Grace
  • Transhumanism


  • Christianity After Religion by Diana Butler Bass
  • Christianity Without God by Lloyd Geering

Article: False Prophet Ronald Weinland, A Voice
from the Jury (

Transcribed: 7-3-12
Formatted: bo—7-4-12

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